Joan Rivers loves to court controversy. The latest? The octogenarian comedian was caught on video declaring that President Barack Obama is a gay man and that his wife, Michelle Obama, is transgender.

This being Rivers, she’s probably kidding — off-color humor has been the “Fashion Police” host’s bread and butter for decades.

As seen in the video above, Rivers brings up the odd commentary when asked by a reporter if they United States would ever have a gay president. Rivers’ response? “We already have it with Obama, so let’s just calm down.”

She then adds, just before walking away, “You know Michelle is a tranny … A transgender. We all know.”

So that happened.